Comments on: Side Step – Flipbook http://www.avneriginal.com/blog/2008/06/20/side-step-flipbook/ Avner Engel's animation workbook Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:12:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aaron http://www.avneriginal.com/blog/2008/06/20/side-step-flipbook/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Aaron Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:36:30 +0000 http://www.avneriginal.com/blog/?p=434#comment-247 Hey Avner, Not looking too bad... The timing doesn't feel too bad... I like the second half more than the first... I'm not sure if this is a cycle or not... but the second half felt more natural (a little slower). Our studio was lucky enough to watch a presentation by Shawn Kelly on Transformers yesterday. In the presntation he talked about how he timed out the speed the robot would move and also how long he would take for weight shifts... he said he actually tries to visualise it before taking any reference... It was interesting to note that in his thumbnails he always takes down the frame numbers... so things are happening at the right time... a lot of this he got from the reference... but a lot of it he puts down himself... from experience... So yeah, his shots on Transformers had great weight... it felt spot on... everything felt really wieghty... I guess that's why he is so fanatical about putting down frame numbers with his thumbnails... He made the point that often times he wouldn't give himself enough time for weight transitions...and often times he'd have to go back and give more time for the change in direction etc... So I learned a lot from that... especially with regards to weight. So what I'm saying is that the side to side is working, it just feels as though there's not enough wieght there... know what I mean? Maybe a few more frames to easy out from the extremes... feels too snappy through there... Maybe simply the arcs of the hands, also... it feels a little too busy... it feels simpler in your reference... That was the only two things that caught my eye... the rest seems good. Good work on this Avner. Aaron Hey Avner,

Not looking too bad… The timing doesn’t feel too bad… I like the second half more than the first… I’m not sure if this is a cycle or not… but the second half felt more natural (a little slower).

Our studio was lucky enough to watch a presentation by Shawn Kelly on Transformers yesterday. In the presntation he talked about how he timed out the speed the robot would move and also how long he would take for weight shifts… he said he actually tries to visualise it before taking any reference… It was interesting to note that in his thumbnails he always takes down the frame numbers… so things are happening at the right time… a lot of this he got from the reference… but a lot of it he puts down himself… from experience… So yeah, his shots on Transformers had great weight… it felt spot on… everything felt really wieghty… I guess that’s why he is so fanatical about putting down frame numbers with his thumbnails… He made the point that often times he wouldn’t give himself enough time for weight transitions…and often times he’d have to go back and give more time for the change in direction etc…

So I learned a lot from that… especially with regards to weight.

So what I’m saying is that the side to side is working, it just feels as though there’s not enough wieght there… know what I mean? Maybe a few more frames to easy out from the extremes… feels too snappy through there… Maybe simply the arcs of the hands, also… it feels a little too busy… it feels simpler in your reference…

That was the only two things that caught my eye… the rest seems good.

Good work on this Avner.

Aaron

]]> By: Daniel Huertas http://www.avneriginal.com/blog/2008/06/20/side-step-flipbook/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Daniel Huertas Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:38:57 +0000 http://www.avneriginal.com/blog/?p=434#comment-246 Hey Mate... I see that you are having fun shooting video reference! :) It's very useful nowadays and i find it's one of my greatest tools while animating... a few notes from your test.. at first glance (without watching your reference vid yet) it looked cool to me and there only was some spacing, arcs and timing problems.. but afterwards i could see that your ups and downs were a bit off considering the video of yourself doing it... check the arcs on your head and center of mass.. they go down and up.. their arcs are from down to up not from up to down like your flipbook test.... also scrub your video refefence and notice that just before changing direction to the side goes screen left (or right) and does the first step before switching sides.. video reference is very powerful and i am pretty sure you will know how to squeeze it to the limit! :) all the best! Hey Mate… I see that you are having fun shooting video reference! :) It’s very useful nowadays and i find it’s one of my greatest tools while animating…

a few notes from your test.. at first glance (without watching your reference vid yet) it looked cool to me and there only was some spacing, arcs and timing problems.. but afterwards i could see that your ups and downs were a bit off considering the video of yourself doing it… check the arcs on your head and center of mass.. they go down and up.. their arcs are from down to up not from up to down like your flipbook test…. also scrub your video refefence and notice that just before changing direction to the side goes screen left (or right) and does the first step before switching sides..

video reference is very powerful and i am pretty sure you will know how to squeeze it to the limit! :)

all the best!

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